St. Andrew's Transition:
Recasting Next Steps

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Transition Update

Dear Parishioners,

Today, the Recasting Team made a presentation to the congregation to share the final recommendation concerning the future of St. Andrew's. After much prayer, discussion, and reflection, it is our strong recommendation to close St. Andrew's by April, 2018.

Next steps include:

  1. The Vestry must vote to approve or reject the recommendation of the Recasting Team.
  2. If the recommendation is approved, the Recasting team will develop a plan to begin the closing process.
  3. In order to keep the parishioners up-to-date with information, the Recasting Team will ensure proper communication by way of print and online. We will share our plan, meeting dates, frequently asked questions,etc.

We ask for your continued prayers as we prepare to set out on this new journey for St. Andrew's.

Amanda Romero, Lead
on behalf of the Recasting Team

Click here to download Recasting presentation. (You will need Acrobat Reader to view the presentation (PDF).

Transition Timeline Events/Meetings

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 - Luncheon Meeting with area Episcopal Churches
The Recasting Team met with other clergy and laypersons in the Dayton area. The meeting was hosted by our Diocesan coach, Rev. Jack Koepke. The goals of the luncheon meeting included the following: (1) to share the the Diocesan closing process, (2) to share how the Recasting Team reached the decision to close; and (3) to ask how they can be of assistance to us during this process.

Click to download notes taken from the luncheon meeting.

Sunday, June 25, 2017 - Affirmation of Vestry's Decision to Close
Congregation Meeting to approve Vestry's decision to close St. Andrew's. This is a critical meeting. Please mark your calendars!

Sunday, May 7, 2017 - Q&A With Rev. Koepke
Coffee hour Conversation Q&A with the Rev. Jack Koepke, Canon of to answer questions you may have about the Diocese's role in the closing of St. Andrew's

Monday, May 8, 2017 - Vestry Approvals of Recasting Team's Recommendation
Vestry to approve/reject Recasting Team recommendation to close the church.

Do you have a question or comment? Submit HERE.

Click here to send us any questions and/or concerns you may have.

All Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

1. What can you do to assist with the closing process?

2. Who owns the Church and Rectory?
In the Episcopal Church, a congregation serves as the trustee or steward of the property and assets, not the owner. The canons of the Episcopal Church are clear:

"All real and personal property held by or for the benefit of any Parish, Mission or Congregation is held in trust for this Church and the Diocese thereof in which such Parish, Mission or Congregation is located. "--[Title I, Canon 7, Section 4 of the
Constitution and Canons of the Episcopal Church]

This means that St. Andrew's holds its real estate and the contents of the buildings - (except those which are owned privately by individuals) in trust for the Episcopal Church and the Diocese of Southern Ohio.

3. What happens after the Vestry and congregation decide St. Andrew's is unable to continue?
When a Vestry determines that a congregation is no longer able to continue, the process outlined in the Diocesan Canons [Canon XVI. 22] is usually followed. That process provides for the Trustees of the Diocese eventually to take possession of the property and assets, and to liquidate and/or distribute them. The proceeds from liquidation are used to meet any outstanding financial obligations that the congregation has, and to cover the continuing costs of maintaining the property until the disposition of the property is determined. Once a determination is made, any remaining funds will revert to the Trustees of the Diocese and are typically designated for use in funding congregational development efforts.

The Vestry, Congregation, Trustees and Diocesan staff work closely together to ensure an orderly, smooth, thoughtful, and kindly transition. Members of the diocesan staff are available as resources for the administration and pastoral care of the congregation as the process unfolds.

4. How soon will we close?
When a Vestry and congregation determine that the congregation is no longer able to continue, and the canonical process mentioned above begins. Members of the Diocesan staff will work closely with the Vestry and congregation to  identify important milestones and establish a well considered timeline leading to a final worship service at St. Andrew's.  The Bishop is present for that service, as are the clergy and people of nearby congregations.

5. If we merge, who will we merge with?
A formal affiliation or merger between St. Andrew's and another congregation is not planned.   Each member of St. Andrew's will be free to decide where he or she will worship and which congregation he or she might join.   A number of members of St. Andrew's might chose to worship together in the same congregation, which is fine. 

6. What will happen to the ashes buried on Church grounds?
That depends in large part on the agreement/contract St. Andrew's entered with the decedents and/or the families of the decedents before the ashes were interred. To the extent possible, notice of the Church's decision to close should be given to the families of those whose ashes are buried on Church grounds. If not otherwise stipulated in the contract, and if the family desires, St. Andrew's may decide to pay the cost of disinterment and removal of the ashes to another burial site.

7. What will happen to the assets inside the Church?
The Vestry (and congregation) is responsible for creating an inventory of the contents of the building to determine the historical, ecclesiastical, or financial value of the various contents.

This information will be instrumental in making decisions about the appropriate disposition of the building contents. For example, items of historical value might be given to the Diocese for archival purposes, or perhaps, in consultation with the historical society of Dayton, to local museums or Universities. Other congregations in Dayton and throughout the Diocese might have use for things of ecclesiastical value. Items that bear a connection to families in the congregation might be offered to the family. Other items might be sold.

In the event that St. Andrew's building is sold to another Church, then it is possible that many of the contents might convey with the sale, or be sold separately to that church.

8. What will happen to our ministries?
It is probable that many of the ministries that occur in and through St. Andrew's will change. Some will cease. Others might continue in new locations and include new people - both to serve and be served. The Recasting Team's goal is to keep some of the ministries in the area (i.e., the Food Pantry and the Clothing Room). Remember this: as members of the Body of Christ, each of you has gifts to offer for ministry, and those gifts can't be taken away from you. Ministry is portable! If you ask God where and with whom you might serve in the future, it won't be long before the Lord reveals abundant opportunities for service and ministry all around you - where ever you are.

9. Will the Diocese give St. Andrew's to New Hope Fellowship to continue their worship services/events? 
The Diocese of Southern Ohio has been very pleased with the relationship between St. Andrew's and New Hope Fellowship, and the hospitality St. Andrew's has offered New Hope Fellowship over the years.  As St. Andrew's moves ahead in with its decision to dissolve, New Hope Fellowship must take the initiative to find a suitable location to meet and worship.  St. Andrew's might become one possible option. At the present time, no decision has been made as to the future disposition of the building and property.

10. When will the Diocese officially dissolve the church?
St. Andrew's will officially be dissolved at the 2018 Diocesan Convention.

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